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This was my first "favorite" video shortly after joining FOTMD...I still think it's awesome.

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/the-sailors-wife

I might even wear BACON !!!

Nice choice, Sam! I wish Strumelia would post more of her playing with Brian. Maybe if we beg her every day and promise to wear our FOTMD buttons everywhere we go . . .

Sam said:

I spend a lot of time viewing videos here and on youtube. Here's my favorite:

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/brianlisa-hellupcoalholler

I spend a lot of time viewing videos here and on youtube. Here's my favorite:

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/brianlisa-hellupcoalholler

Wendy...you're much appreciated. Thank you!

Macy Jayne said:

I just clicked on 'My Favorites' on FOTMD and had these 2 vids listed

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/sapphire-1

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/duet-squirrel-heads-and-gravy

Thanks to Kim, JohnK and KarenK for the great vids!

Another great voice and another great dulcimer:

I wish I had known about the dulcimer years ago. As a guitar player, I tried for years to figure out what odd open tuning Joni was using on those songs. When I finally "discovered" the dulcimer a few years ago I finally found the video above and it all made sense.

Do you think if I change my name from Dusty Turtle to Sunset Pig Joni will kiss me?

Barbara P said:

Dusty Turtle this was the song that piqued my interest many years ago (and A Case of You)! Too bad I didn't start playing then! I am so glad you posted this video. She is just so incredibly wonderful!!!

Some voices can make me cry. And if it's accompanied by a dulcimer, I am powerless.

Thanks Wendy, that's so sweet. I am honored to be included as one of your favs.!!!

Macy Jayne said:

I just clicked on 'My Favorites' on FOTMD and had these 2 vids listed

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/sapphire-1

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/duet-squirrel-heads-and-gravy

Thanks to Kim, JohnK and KarenK for the great vids!

Some things just make me smile. Thiswould be one of them.

Robin Thompson said:

Margie, though I believe this is not Turkey in the Straw , this one would have to be one of my favorites:

I'd never heard of The Low Anthem before. Awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing that one, Randy.

Randy Adams said:

The tune is Johnson Boys Robin. I don't know if that old dood ever really gets with the rhythm... but at about 1 minute he gets closer! It's a precious vid huh?

Got a bunch of favs but here's a couple. No dulcimer but they gots drones!...f'sure...

What a neat way to find more wonderful music on FOTMD. Ijust watched "Sapphire" and loved it. Now I've gone to watch all of Kim's videos. Great thread!

I just clicked on 'My Favorites' on FOTMD and had these 2 vids listed

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/sapphire-1

http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/duet-squirrel-heads-and-gravy

Thanks to Kim, JohnK and KarenK for the great vids!

This is fun - I'm really enjoying the variety of playing and players. These are two of my absolute favorite videos: Josh Noe is a young player and extremely talented - love to see/hear the wonderful talent of our younger players:

Josh Noe - Indigo Out/Gary Gallier

And, I love this one because the tune/playing is great but also because the location is a great backdrop - enjoy:

Farewell Fair One at City of Rocks- Gary Gallier

Thanks Margie for asking -Linda :)

Yeah but if they are including any kinds of videos and not just mtn dulcimer videos or fotmd videos, then I probably should move this thread to the off-topic forum.

Fun thread though!

So much music.

So little time.

The tune is Johnson Boys Robin. I don't know if that old dood ever really gets with the rhythm... but at about 1 minute he gets closer! It's a precious vid huh?

Got a bunch of favs but here's a couple. No dulcimer but they gots drones!...f'sure...

Well, veering away from the dulc a bit :

Tim O'Brien & Jerry Douglas

He is playing it in his lap :)

john p

Robin, that looks like an old Thomas dulcimer...? I love the ol deewde clogging! And then granny cuts the rug too!!!

AWESOME!!!!!! Never saw it before.

Wayne, Pristine's 'gree' video is one of my favorites too. :)

Margie, though I believe this is not Turkey in the Straw , this one would have to be one of my favorites:

.3mm! I though you were talking SERIOUS separation like 4-6mm. Your wood/glue filler will do certainly do the job, we do that sort of thing all the time. I love the 'high silvery' sound of those older, smaller bodied dulcimers. I have a vintage one from the early 1960s that is like that. Enjoy your new sound.

That's the important thing. It sounds like it's in good hands and you'll get a lot of enjoyment from it.

Kevin Little said:

The price was right and I'm happy with it.

This sounds strangely familiar. I bought an old-timey looking dulcimer offeBayabout a year ago, wooden pegs and display stand, and the whole works. It was really heavy, didn't sound very good, and had a split in the back like you're describing. It could not have been squeezed back together, because it seems that both halves were glued to the brace that way, which could be seen through the crack, going across the lower bout. I prevailed on the seller and got my money back. I showed that it was split, while they claimed it was in perfect condition in the ad; I finally convinced them to take it back based on misrepresenting the item. In fact it may have been made that way by mistake. I was happy to get my money back, less shipping. Another eBay lesson. I hope you have better luck, and that yours is easily repairable.

Try your padded bar clamp(s) across the back to gently see if the two pieces can be drawn together...

You could always get a length of thin marquetry backstrip from a guitar shop and surface glue it across the split

Additional sound hole for the little harmonics to fall through!

Does the separation stop at the brace? It may be difficult/impossible to pull it together without damaging something.

I used Epon for the few flyrods I made.

It looks like the glue released at the joint (got hot/wet maybe?). If that's true, the glue could be hide glue and repairing with hide glue should work.

This internal brace you speak of, is it across the gap in the back?

If so, are you sure it is glued right across, or maybe only fixed to one side?

IOW, can the bout be squeezed shut as you suggest.

john p

Yes it's safe to tune and play. Yes it's repairable. Probably not a result of the wood drying. More likely the result of being dropped it on its back or someone pressing in on the back..

The way I'd fix it is:

1. run a line of masking tape along both edges of the split to keep excess glue off the surface.

2. Insert a popsicle stick or somethgn similar and pry up gently to expose the edges. Slather Titebond or similar glue on the edges.

3. Release the stick so the edges come back together again. Put a third strip of masking tape down the length, centered on the split, pressing down slightly as you go.

4. Make sure the new joint is flush. If necessary you can push up on the inside using a pencil or piece of dowel through the sound holes.

That's the fretting I play in an Ionian mode tuning. It's the same fretting pattern that Jean Ritchie plays tuned CGG

I fret the doh note on 3.

TAB Pretty Saro 1-5-5

0 3 1 0 3 4 5 4 3\0 1 0
Down in some lone valley, in a lonesome place
0 0 3 1 0 3 4 4 4 5 7 7 4
Where the wild birds do whistle and their notes do increase
4 5/7 7 8 4 3 3/4 5 0 1 0
Farewell pretty Saro, I'll bid you a-dieu
0 0 3 1 0 0 3 4 5\4 3 0 1 0
But I'll dream of pretty Saro wher-e-ver I go

Never sure what sort of TAB people are looking for. This is how I do it for noter/drone style.(finger/drone in my case)

john p

Vivian, Have you tried playing the tab you have on the middle string in DAd. Basically that's what Richard is doing. He's playing a slightly flat DAd tuning on the A string. You could try tuning just to DAA and playing on the melody line.

Jean Ritchie in her book (I looked her tune up) plays "Pretty Saro" in CGG which will put you an Ionian mode. The site that I gave you has TAB that looks like a Mixolydian tuning, but it is the same fret number that Jean Ritchie plays. If I was tuned CGc, I'd do as Richard has done and play the fretting I have on the middle string.

If you want the sound that Richard is doing, you have to loosen your strings just slightly. You don't really have to retune if you are in DAd just relax the strings an equal amount and your strings shouldn't buzz as you're not going down even a whole note.

Thank you everyone! and thank you Strumelia for fixing my error. I really need to find out how to do that!

Benjamin, I'm glad you told me about the book by Jean Ritchie, I had thought about getting that book anyway, so was glad to know it is in there, I ordered it today, so that will be grand..

I haven't tried retuning yet, as folkfan says he does, actually I'm nervous to do it, but I will give it a try. I am going to try the modes as John P suggests and see what it sounds like...if I can figure it out. I had some progress playing it on the middle string as suggested, it sounded much better, well, except for the missed notes and buzzing strings . That' all good though, because I am really enjoying myself. Thanks again!

http://sniff.numachi.com/lookup.cgi?ds1=D&ds2=D&ds3=G&ti=PRETSARO&tt=PRETSARO&tab=d

This is how I play it using an Ionian tuning of CGG.

Richard is playing a DAd tuning, but 15 percent flat in his tuning and he is playing on the middle string. The vibrating technique he uses give the song a quavery sound that the singer who he has based his playing on has in her voice.

I have it in two of my dulcimer books: The first from the Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie, and the second from Aubrey Atwaters arrangement of the Ritchie version in her book, Song by Song.

Looks like Mixalydian(start at open string DAD).

The basic version is pentatonic and can be played in Ionian(start at 3rd fret DAA) and Dorian(start at 4th fret DAG) as well. You can even play it in Aeolian if you have a 6+ fret(start at 1st fret DAC).

An extra long fretboard and lower tuning are mentioned, so maybe it's a non standard,

john p

I fixed it for you Vivian.

Well that didn't work...AAAARRRGGG>

I am going to try and put a link to You Tube video in here, but don't know if it will work...first time trying! Anyway, I found this version of Pretty Saro, and really like it, but the artist has no tab for it and I can't even figure out how he has it tuned.

I have Tab for it in DAD, but it sounds very different.. Can anyone tell me how this is tuned just by listening to it, or know where i might find tab like this version? Here is the link, hopefully. I found it by searching "dulcimer music pretty Saro" and the title of the video is Pretty Saro (Ultra Simple version)

Thanks!

I don't see that anyone else addressed this problem with your dulcimer about the separation that you found on the back, but a dulcimer or other instrument maker/repair person should be able to fix it. I had a little separation on the back of one of mine and took it to someone who was able to add some filler and fix the problem. He was someone who has worked around instruments for a long time. In fact, years ago there was an article on him in Dulcimer Player news.

Happy strumming....